this would be sad: Flash 10 rendering is not nearly as smooth as Shockwave's, and SPi-V's XML specifications are among the most complete and mature in the industry.
and I hope it is not true. On the Open Source side of things, we have http://freepv.sf.net/ which plays natively SPi-V (and QuickTime) panoramas.
In 2008 Google was ready to sponsor again but the picked student desisted (found a full time job).
We may give it a try again in 2009, to integrate FreePV (and thus SPi-V playback capabilities) into VLC media player, which is available for Mac/Windows/Linux/BSD.
Submitted by total n00ber on January 12, 2009 - 22:00.
The problem is only 58% of browsers have Shockwave to view SPi-V panos: http://www.adobe.com/products/player_census/flashplayer/
And FreePV you have to install another plugin. Installing plugin creates another step for the visitor and it's a hassle to deal with. That goes for DevalVR plugin as well.
I would disagree with you on Flash 10's rendering not being smooth. Both Flash Panorama Player and Krpano play really well on computers with regular specifications.
I agree using Shockwave for viewing panoramas online is becoming less attractive. Shockwave can still deliver panoramas smoother than FP10 in most cases. But these days the benefits of what SPi-V has to offer do not outweigh the benefits of a mostly ubiquitous playback and development platform.
It is true that I have not been spending much time on developing SPi-V lately.
With Flash-based viewers becoming more and more capable, there is less and less demand for a Shockwave based viewer. Unfortunately some recent decisions by Adobe are not making Shockwave any more compelling as an online delivery platform.
Does that mean that SPi-V is dead? I would not say that; I use it daily. I know others do as well. I can still do things with SPi-V that I have not seen in Flash based viewers (though ofcourse I can do things with SPi-V that most of you can't).
Submitted by k_kwiatek on January 13, 2009 - 21:41.
Aldo,
so for those who are still using SPi-V (this is still my favourite viewer for DVDs and CDs) can you show us "things that we can't do". In this way we can squeeze more and more from SPi-V. Please share with us some of your projects. Thanks in advance.
Karol
Unfortunately, most of those things are presentations I make for clients, with material that I am not at liberty to show. Besides, I'ld rather not show them because I know you'll be nagging me forever about making things like that available to you...
Re: The end of SPi-V?
I have to agree with you Karol.
There has been no activity for so long!
Paul.
Re: The end of SPi-V?
SPi-V is done for sure. Just look at the activity on the Flash Panorama forum, Krpano forum, and PanoSalado forum.
Flash 10 / Papervision 3D is the best current choice right now for viewing panoramas.
Re: The end of SPi-V?
this would be sad: Flash 10 rendering is not nearly as smooth as Shockwave's, and SPi-V's XML specifications are among the most complete and mature in the industry.
and I hope it is not true. On the Open Source side of things, we have http://freepv.sf.net/ which plays natively SPi-V (and QuickTime) panoramas.
In 2007 Google sponsored the code development: http://code.google.com/soc/2007/pano/about.html
In 2008 Google was ready to sponsor again but the picked student desisted (found a full time job).
We may give it a try again in 2009, to integrate FreePV (and thus SPi-V playback capabilities) into VLC media player, which is available for Mac/Windows/Linux/BSD.
Re: The end of SPi-V?
The problem is only 58% of browsers have Shockwave to view SPi-V panos: http://www.adobe.com/products/player_census/flashplayer/
And FreePV you have to install another plugin. Installing plugin creates another step for the visitor and it's a hassle to deal with. That goes for DevalVR plugin as well.
I would disagree with you on Flash 10's rendering not being smooth. Both Flash Panorama Player and Krpano play really well on computers with regular specifications.
Re: The end of SPi-V?
I agree using Shockwave for viewing panoramas online is becoming less attractive. Shockwave can still deliver panoramas smoother than FP10 in most cases. But these days the benefits of what SPi-V has to offer do not outweigh the benefits of a mostly ubiquitous playback and development platform.
Re: The end of SPi-V?
It is true that I have not been spending much time on developing SPi-V lately.
With Flash-based viewers becoming more and more capable, there is less and less demand for a Shockwave based viewer. Unfortunately some recent decisions by Adobe are not making Shockwave any more compelling as an online delivery platform.
Does that mean that SPi-V is dead? I would not say that; I use it daily. I know others do as well. I can still do things with SPi-V that I have not seen in Flash based viewers (though ofcourse I can do things with SPi-V that most of you can't).
Re: The end of SPi-V?
Aldo,
so for those who are still using SPi-V (this is still my favourite viewer for DVDs and CDs) can you show us "things that we can't do". In this way we can squeeze more and more from SPi-V. Please share with us some of your projects. Thanks in advance.
Karol
Re: The end of SPi-V?
Unfortunately, most of those things are presentations I make for clients, with material that I am not at liberty to show. Besides, I'ld rather not show them because I know you'll be nagging me forever about making things like that available to you...